In the “Gotham” Season 3, episode 10, titled “Time Bomb,” Barbara Kean (Erin Richards) pulled out all the stops to rescue her good friend and partner, Tabitha Galavan (Jessica Lucas).

Barbara wasn’t afraid to fight for Tabitha, and Richards told Screener TV why she has forged such an important connection to her partner in the nightclub Sirens.

“I think that has a lot to do with the relationship they have with each other — and also because she knows that she needs Tabitha,” Richard revealed. “Without Tabitha, she is unprotected. And even though she has this great intellect, and motivation to move up the ranks of the underworld, Babs without Tabs is not going to get her there — she needs the brawn as well as the brains.”

Richards even hinted that Barbara’s relationship with Tabitha is more important than the latter’s connection to Butch Gilzean (Drew Powell). “Barbara and Tabitha are very similar in that they’ll use whoever’s around,” she said. “Butch is useful to have around as long as he’s on [our] side. It’s… muscle, another set of guns to help her rise to the top.”

Earlier, Richards told Comic Book that Babs and Tabs have “mutual respect” for each other, but they also have a “sort of slight battle for who is in power.” “I think if you ask Barbara, she’d say she’s the head of the Sirens, but if you ask Tabitha the same thing, she’d say the same. So it’s good, this playful rivalry,” she explained.

Meanwhile, Ben McKenzie, who plays Jim Gordon, was earlier asked if his character could still repair his relationship with Barbara. After all, the two shared a loving relationship at one point in their lives and were even set to get married. But McKenzie told Blastr that it’s no longer possible. “I don’t think the relationship can be healed; I do think there’s a chance of personal redemption for all of these characters no matter how villainous they become,” he said.