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U.S. says $134B bonds seized in Italy are 'clearly fake'



18 June 2009 @ 05:14 pm ET

A spokesman from the US bureau of the Public Debt said Wednesday that the $134 billion of U.S. bonds seized by Italy's financial police are “clearly fakes,” all through no official word has been issued from Italy.

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Two weeks ago, according to the Italian authorities, two Japanese men were caught at the rail station with the seized bonds hidden in a briefcase. The notes included 249 securities worth $500 million each, and 10 additional bonds with a value of more than $1 billion. The seizure also included large amount of 'Kennedy bonds'.

"They are clearly fakes," said Stephen Meyerhardt, a spokesman for the U.S. Bureau of the Public Debt in Washington.

"That's beyond the fact that the face value is far beyond what's out there," he said. “No such 'Kennedy bonds' exist.”

According to U.S. Treasury records, it shows an estimated $105 billion in bearer bonds have yet to be surrendered, and most matured more than five years ago, he said, noting that the US Treasury stopped issuing bearer bonds in 1982.

Italy’s Guardia di Finanz, a highly specialized financial police agency, also expressed doubts about their authenticity, especially in the 'Kennedy bonds', but noted the others were so well made that it was hard to tell them apart from real ones.

The Japanese nationals who were caught bringing in the bonds have been released as they "broke no laws", according to the Mainichi Shimbum, which sent a reporter to the Italian town of Chiasso where the men were arrested.

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1.
Jun 19, 2009 12:58am

If they were 'clearly fake' why did it take so long for them to say it? Who would counterfit a billion dollars anyway? And those nationals are free now?> huh
2.
Jun 19, 2009 7:44am

I can't believe the authorities would let the two men go. Do we know what country they are from? Seems to me, their passports would have been counterfeit as well. Who the heck's in charge there? -- DMNL
3.
Jun 19, 2009 8:03am

What the heck is going on with these "fake" bonds. Today (June 19th) another story: Japanese Bonds @ 15 Billion € Confiscated in Italy. http://is.gd/167Bd
4.
Jun 19, 2009 9:14am

The bonds were not fake, and the two men work for the japanese finance ministry. The serial numbers have been verified. Apparently the japanese are becoming concerned with the USa's ability to pay and wanted to start secretly dumping the US paper it is holding. With Washington printing money and spending like there is no tomorrow sooner or later something like this was to be expected. The worse part of this is that US officials identified the bonds as fake which means they can't tell the difference between what is real and what isn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5.
Jun 19, 2009 10:31am

If bonds are fake japanese should have been put in jail. since they were released it confirms the bonds are genuine. someone crack the story ... this is still secret for almost one month...
6.
Jun 19, 2009 11:55am

who would spend the time and energy to produce fake bonds. the fact that they were moving the bonds proves that they had a buyer. will the us government check the serial numbers to see where they are from? will they tell the public? face it , we are in the quicksand and we are sinking deeper!
7.
Jun 19, 2009 5:13pm

I did not wake up this morning stupid!..I wish I could have been a fly-on-the-wall at the backroom meeting where this "official story" was conjured up. Mafia? Ha!..N.Korea?..Ha!..Why in the world would they waste time and create 10 $1 billion bonds if they did not exist? I agree with the poster above: "If bonds are fake the Japanese should have been put in jail. Since they were released it confirms the bonds are genuine."..True, as that would have been a fraud and forgery case.
8.
Jun 20, 2009 4:31pm

Great article follow-up.. Please keep updating us with latest developments
9.
Jun 25, 2009 11:30pm

Anyway!! No one with a room temperature IQ believes that bold face untruth that the bonds are fake! How do you make a fake bond? Don’t you need to look at a real bond? I pray to God that there are not that many stupid people in the US or that many stupid people in the US in positions with significant responsibility. Simple research does indicate that the US did issue paper bearer bonds at face value of $100 million and $500 million. Well on the other hand, maybe I just indirectly figured out why the college attendance and graduation rate is so low in America.
10.
Jun 27, 2009 7:54pm

Italian police have still not officialy said if the bonds are fake or real. Still Too many conflicting reports in media about the identity of smugglers, when detained, how long, when released, did detainees request attorney and does attorney have a name??? This site http://slyryder.com/bondgate.html seems to be focusing on the timeline surrounding the detainees and what the Italian police knew about the passports and when they knew it. What do the Italian police really know? Good site, good resources with good photo and videos and commentary on the police investigations thus far. The Italian police have not been cooperative. Maybe they bungled everything! Really, for all we know, the Italian police might have actually released the detainees to someone pretending to be an attorney.

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