Prince Charles, Princess Anne, Prince Andrew, and Prince Edward are reportedly not close and Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip may partly be blamed for it.

On the podcast “Royals,” host Smita Mistry told royal commentator Angela Mollard that it seems as though the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh had two sets of children. The first set includes Prince Charles and Princess Anne, and the second set includes Prince Andrew and Prince Edward.

“That’s right, she had Charles and Anne, then a decade later had Andrew and Edward, so it’s almost like two distinct families. They’re very different, all four of them,” she said.

Mollard described Princess Anne as somebody who is incredibly strong-willed and forthright. Princess Royal also gets along well with Prince Philip, and there are rumors that she’s his favorite child.

Prince Charles, on the other hand, is a softie and he is also a gentler character who probably needed better and closer parenting compared to what he received.

“Those two are very different… Andrew and Edward, they sort of got on with it, they didn’t have the focus so much as younger children… They all get together and they’re all happy at family gatherings but there’s a lot of question marks over how much they see each other between times,” she said.

The royal author also said that it may be possible that Prince Charles, Princess Anne, Prince Andrew, and Prince Edward didn’t grow up to be close to each other because of how their parents raised them.

Growing up, the siblings didn’t see a lot of affection and communication from their parents so it is impossible for them to grow up as best friends. Mollard said that the Queen and the Duke were their children’s role models and whatever they did or didn’t do must have impacted them.

But at the end of the day, Mollard also said that she thinks the siblings are doing the best that they can despite not being that close.

Queen Elizabeth, Prince Philip, Prince Edward, Prince Charles, Prince Andrew and Princess Anne
Pictured: Prince Charles, Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Philip, Prince Andrew, Princess Anne and Prince Edward on the occasion of a dinner to mark the forthcoming Diamond Wedding Anniversary of The Queen and The Duke on Nov. 18, 2007. Getty Images/Tim Graham