A hot microphone caught two senators worried about the mental health of President Donald Trump and talking poorly about a House member on Tuesday. The microphone was left on after the Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies Subcommittee and caught a conversation between the committee’s Republican Chairwoman Susan Collins of Maine and its ranking Democrat, Jack Reed of Rhode Island.

“I swear, [the Office of Management and Budget] just went through and whenever there was ‘grant,’ they just X it out,” said Collins. “With no measurement, no thinking about it, no metrics, no nothing. It’s just incredibly irresponsible.”

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“I think — I think he’s crazy,” said Reed, apparently referring to the president. “I mean, I don’t say that lightly and as a kind of a goofy guy.”

“I’m worried,” said Collins.

“Oof,” said Reed. “You know, this thing — if we don’t get a budget deal, we’re going to be paralyzed.”

“I don’t think (Trump) knows there is a [Budget Control Act] or anything,” said Collins, referring to a 2011 law that defines the budget process, according to the Washington Post Tuesday.

“He was down at the Ford commissioning,” said Reed, referring to Trump commissioning a new navy ship. “Saying, ‘I want them to pass my budget.’ Okay, so we give him $54 billion and then we take it away across the board which would cause chaos.”

“Right,” said Collins.

“It’s just — and he hasn’t — not one word about the budget. Not one word about the debt ceiling,” said Reed.

“Good point,” said Collins.

“You’ve got (Budget Director Mick) Mulvaney saying we’re going to put in all sorts of stuff like a border wall. Then you’ve got (Treasury Secretary Steve) Mnuchin saying it’s got to be clean,” said Reed. “We’re going to be back in September, and, you know, you’re going to have crazy people in the House.”

Collins then discussed Rep. Blake Farenthold, a Texas Republican who challenged female senators holding up the Senate health care plan to a duel in a radio interview Friday.

“Did you see the one who challenged me to a duel?” asked Collins.

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“I know. Trust me. Do you know why he challenged you to a duel? Because you could beat the shit out of him,” said Reed.

“Well, he’s huge, and he — I don’t mean to be unkind, but he’s so unattractive it’s unbelievable,” said Collins. “Did you see the picture of him in his pajamas next to this Playboy bunny?”